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		<title>By: Michael Tefft</title>
		<link>http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2008/05/24/gas-too-expensive-try-mass-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tefft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid. Apparently you have a hard time when it comes to sarcasm. Apparently the reference to Bengay eluded you. I was trying to make the point that a bike trail would be a better option than the current mass transit system that I was criticising. BTW, I was one of the drivers that paid the state and federal taxes that built the roads. I paid it for over 40 years. So I dare say I have paid for the roads more than you have. And I would be willing to pay a toll for the bike lanes. It would be cheaper than paying for gas or the fares the transit system charges now. And a bike lane would not have to actually replace an existing land. It could be build along side the lane and would actually alleviate heavy congestion. Just saying.
.-= Michael Tefft&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2009/06/11/first-they-register-your-guns-then-they-confiscate-them/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;First they register your guns, then they confiscate them.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid. Apparently you have a hard time when it comes to sarcasm. Apparently the reference to Bengay eluded you. I was trying to make the point that a bike trail would be a better option than the current mass transit system that I was criticising. BTW, I was one of the drivers that paid the state and federal taxes that built the roads. I paid it for over 40 years. So I dare say I have paid for the roads more than you have. And I would be willing to pay a toll for the bike lanes. It would be cheaper than paying for gas or the fares the transit system charges now. And a bike lane would not have to actually replace an existing land. It could be build along side the lane and would actually alleviate heavy congestion. Just saying.<br />
.-= Michael Tefft&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2009/06/11/first-they-register-your-guns-then-they-confiscate-them/" rel="nofollow">First they register your guns, then they confiscate them.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid Greenmun</title>
		<link>http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2008/05/24/gas-too-expensive-try-mass-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid Greenmun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to increase traffic congestion to turn roadway lanes into BIKE PATHS? That is pretty selfish, don&#039;t you think? Since you retired you are willing to make the commute worse for others?

How do you propose you pay for these hundrends of millions of dollars of roadways you seek to take away from the drivers that paid for them? Drivers that paid the Federal and State gas taxe used to pay for the roads and highways?

How much a a toll are you willing to pay to use these special bike lanes you want?

Are you willing to pay an cost for a bike licence that will be fair in relation to the services you are asking for?

Or are you really asking for new bike lanes that others - who are not bike riders - to pay for?

Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to increase traffic congestion to turn roadway lanes into BIKE PATHS? That is pretty selfish, don&#8217;t you think? Since you retired you are willing to make the commute worse for others?</p>
<p>How do you propose you pay for these hundrends of millions of dollars of roadways you seek to take away from the drivers that paid for them? Drivers that paid the Federal and State gas taxe used to pay for the roads and highways?</p>
<p>How much a a toll are you willing to pay to use these special bike lanes you want?</p>
<p>Are you willing to pay an cost for a bike licence that will be fair in relation to the services you are asking for?</p>
<p>Or are you really asking for new bike lanes that others &#8211; who are not bike riders &#8211; to pay for?</p>
<p>Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: mtefft</title>
		<link>http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2008/05/24/gas-too-expensive-try-mass-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>mtefft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 14:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information. I may have to take up the issue of Chesapeake not sending a sitting Councilman to HRT with the city council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information. I may have to take up the issue of Chesapeake not sending a sitting Councilman to HRT with the city council.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ryto</title>
		<link>http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2008/05/24/gas-too-expensive-try-mass-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ryto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 14:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops: Cedar Grove, not &quot;Cedar Drove.&quot;

Part of your problem is that you&#039;re in Chesapeake. The City doesn&#039;t care enough to even send a sitting Councilman to HRT as a Commissioner. You have former Councilman Joe Newman and Delegate Lionell Spruill.

From Western Branch, shoot for Cedar Grove starting June 16 and take the 960 (MAX) to the Oceanfront.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops: Cedar Grove, not &#8220;Cedar Drove.&#8221;</p>
<p>Part of your problem is that you&#8217;re in Chesapeake. The City doesn&#8217;t care enough to even send a sitting Councilman to HRT as a Commissioner. You have former Councilman Joe Newman and Delegate Lionell Spruill.</p>
<p>From Western Branch, shoot for Cedar Grove starting June 16 and take the 960 (MAX) to the Oceanfront.</p>
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		<title>By: mtefft</title>
		<link>http://www.themindoftefft.com/blog/2008/05/24/gas-too-expensive-try-mass-transit/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>mtefft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. You can try the Google map yourself. I live in Western Branch and I got 3 hours and 40 minutes plus 11 minutes walking. That is for a 28 mile route. I also question the quote of $14.50 vs the $3.00 HRT cost. Even if gas is at $4.00 a gallon it should not cost me $14.50. They must be figuring in other costs also. I would love to use HRT, it just doesn&#039;t seem feasible to me for now. I hope there will be more express bus routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. You can try the Google map yourself. I live in Western Branch and I got 3 hours and 40 minutes plus 11 minutes walking. That is for a 28 mile route. I also question the quote of $14.50 vs the $3.00 HRT cost. Even if gas is at $4.00 a gallon it should not cost me $14.50. They must be figuring in other costs also. I would love to use HRT, it just doesn&#8217;t seem feasible to me for now. I hope there will be more express bus routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ryto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Ryto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you trying to get to Atlantic Avenue from? When the new MAX service comes online next month (June 16), there will be an express bus from Cedar Drove (downtown Norfolk&#039;s TC) to 19th &amp; Pacific (Dome site).

In addition, the Google service isn&#039;t totally reliable. As a regular bus rider, it&#039;s produced a couple routings for me that were laughable.

Yes, HRT is often slower than dirving, but I have trouble with that 3:51 figure.

Finally, the bus in your picture is an Orion, oldest of the forty-foot models used on the Southside. It&#039;s a rustbucket, but it&#039;s windows open fully, allowing you a nice breeze in this weather.

Henry Ryto, Chairman, HRT&#039;s User Citizen Advisory Committee (UCAC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you trying to get to Atlantic Avenue from? When the new MAX service comes online next month (June 16), there will be an express bus from Cedar Drove (downtown Norfolk&#8217;s TC) to 19th &amp; Pacific (Dome site).</p>
<p>In addition, the Google service isn&#8217;t totally reliable. As a regular bus rider, it&#8217;s produced a couple routings for me that were laughable.</p>
<p>Yes, HRT is often slower than dirving, but I have trouble with that 3:51 figure.</p>
<p>Finally, the bus in your picture is an Orion, oldest of the forty-foot models used on the Southside. It&#8217;s a rustbucket, but it&#8217;s windows open fully, allowing you a nice breeze in this weather.</p>
<p>Henry Ryto, Chairman, HRT&#8217;s User Citizen Advisory Committee (UCAC)</p>
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